{"id":19429,"date":"2018-04-14T20:49:24","date_gmt":"2018-04-14T18:49:24","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/8a.pl\/8academy\/?p=19429"},"modified":"2024-05-19T22:23:23","modified_gmt":"2024-05-19T20:23:23","slug":"krzysztof-wielicki-i-janusz-golab-o-k2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/8a.pl\/8academy\/krzysztof-wielicki-i-janusz-golab-o-k2\/","title":{"rendered":"Krzysztof Wielicki i Janusz Go\u0142\u0105b o zimowych zmaganiach z K2"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><strong>Piotr Turkot: Chcia\u0142em zapyta\u0107 o moment, kiedy pierwszy raz przysz\u0142o wam do\u015bwiadczy\u0107 himalajskiej zimy.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Janusz Go\u0142\u0105b:<\/strong> <em>Krzysiek \u2013 kt\u00f3ra Twoja wyprawa by\u0142a pierwsz\u0105 zimow\u0105?<\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong>Krzysztof Wielicki:<\/strong> <em>Everest\u2026<\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong>J.G.:<\/strong> <em>No w\u0142a\u015bnie. Pojecha\u0142 pierwszy raz zim\u0105 i od razu wszed\u0142 na Everest. Ja po raz pierwszy pojecha\u0142em zim\u0105 i uda\u0142o si\u0119 wej\u015b\u0107 na Gaszerbrum I. Wi\u0119c takie do\u015bwiadczenie ju\u017c mieli\u015bmy. Natomiast je\u015bli chodzi o pierwsze dni zimowej wyprawy na K2, by\u0142 to trekking do bazy. Latem trwa on maksymalnie 6 dni. U nas trwa\u0142o to troszk\u0119 d\u0142u\u017cej, bo je\u015bli organizm jest niezaaklimatyzowany, nieco inaczej si\u0119 zachowuje. <\/em><\/p>\n<p><em><strong>K.W.:<\/strong> \u0141atwo nie by\u0142o. My\u015bmy troch\u0119 wsp\u00f3\u0142czuli tragarzom, \u017ce nasze \u0142adunki musz\u0105 nosi\u0107, ale oni podczas trekkingu radzili sobie lepiej ni\u017c my.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em><strong>J.G.:<\/strong> Generalnie karawana nie jest prostym przedsi\u0119wzi\u0119ciem logistycznym. Do przej\u015bcia by\u0142o oko\u0142o 90 km olbrzymim lodowcem. Samo dotarcie &#8211; to by\u0142 dla nas bardzo szcz\u0119\u015bliwy moment.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em><strong>K.W.:<\/strong> Na ko\u0144cu przyspieszyli\u015bmy, bo kto\u015b powiedzia\u0142, \u017ce pod Broad Peak jest \u017ce\u0144ska wyprawa. Ch\u0142opcy dodali gazu, a potem si\u0119 okaza\u0142o, \u017ce to pomy\u0142ka. [\u015bmiech]<\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong>P.T.:<\/strong> <strong>A jak wygl\u0105da\u0142 wyb\u00f3r miejsca na baz\u0119?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>J.G.:<\/strong> <em>Miejsce zosta\u0142o wybrane przez naszego kucharza jesieni\u0105. Cz\u0119\u015b\u0107 baga\u017cy zosta\u0142a zniesiona ju\u017c w pa\u017adzierniku. To wszystko na nas czeka\u0142o razem z zapasem paliwa, kt\u00f3re jest tam niezb\u0119dne. Namioty personalne, kuchnie &#8211; sukcesywnie stawiali\u015bmy je sami\u2026<\/em><\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_19447\" style=\"width: 1010px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><img fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-19447\" class=\"K2 zim\u0105 wp-image-19447 size-full\" title=\"zima na K2\" src=\"http:\/\/8a.pl\/8academy\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/04\/14-kopia.jpg\" alt=\"Krzysztof Wielicki i Janusz Go\u0142\u0105b o zimowych zmaganiach z K2\" width=\"1000\" height=\"650\" srcset=\"https:\/\/8a.pl\/8academy\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/04\/14-kopia.jpg 1000w, https:\/\/8a.pl\/8academy\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/04\/14-kopia-300x195.jpg 300w, https:\/\/8a.pl\/8academy\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/04\/14-kopia-768x499.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1000px) 100vw, 1000px\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-19447\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Krzysztof Wielicki i Janusz Go\u0142\u0105b opowiadali o K2 licznie zgromadzonej publiczno\u015bci. (fot. Piotr Deska)<\/p><\/div>\n<p><strong>P.T.: A co z miejscami pod osobiste namioty?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>K.W.:<\/strong> <em>Janusz rozbi\u0142 si\u0119 wy\u017cej, my\u015bmy wybrali miejsce na dole. Ka\u017cdy by\u0142 przekonany, \u017ce wybiera stanowisko, gdzie b\u0119dzie najmniej wia\u0142o. Ka\u017cdy mia\u0142 te\u017c na ten temat inn\u0105 teori\u0119. Ale w rzeczywisto\u015bci wsz\u0119dzie wia\u0142o po r\u00f3wno.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong>J.G.:<\/strong> <em>Zgodz\u0119 z tym, \u017ce wsz\u0119dzie wia\u0142o tak samo. Natomiast pomi\u0119dzy wzniesieniem a dolink\u0105 by\u0142a taka r\u00f3\u017cnica, \u017ce jak pada\u0142 albo by\u0142 nawiewany \u015bnieg, to na dole on si\u0119 gromadzi\u0142 i namioty by\u0142y zasypywane, a na g\u00f3rce nie trzeba by\u0142o ich odkopywa\u0107. <\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong>K.W.:<\/strong> <em>A jeszcze inni my\u015bleli o tym, \u017ceby nie by\u0107 za daleko od satelity. Kombinowali, \u017ceby z\u0142apa\u0107 dobry sygna\u0142, bo w namiocie przyjemniej korzysta si\u0119 z telefon\u00f3w, ni\u017c w mesie.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong>P.T. Waszym pierwotnym celem by\u0142a Droga Bask\u00f3w. Jak wygl\u0105da\u0142a pierwsza konfrontacja ze \u015bcian\u0105? Jak ocenicie zderzenie oczekiwa\u0144 z do\u015bwiadczenia letniego z zimow\u0105 rzeczywisto\u015bci\u0105? Bo pocz\u0105tkowo chyba powia\u0142o optymizmem?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>J.G.:<\/strong> <em>Ja to te\u017c tak odebra\u0142em, \u017ce by\u0142o optymistycznie. Po doj\u015bciu do bazy przypominali\u015bmy sobie wszystkie obawy wyra\u017cane przez Rosjanie, kt\u00f3rzy byli na Drodze Bask\u00f3w zim\u0105, w sezonie 2011\/12. I oni wspominali o czarnym lodzie. O wspinaczce lodowej, kt\u00f3ra jest uci\u0105\u017cliwa. Natomiast my\u015bmy a\u017c tak twardego czarnego lodu nie mieli. By\u0142o nawet firnowe po\u0142acie. Ale &#8211; niestety \u2013 by\u0142o bardzo ma\u0142o \u015bniegu w kuluarach. W wi\u0119kszo\u015bci tych miejsc ods\u0142oni\u0119te by\u0142 du\u017ce wyrobiska skalne. Chodzenie po tym by\u0142o bardzo problematyczne. K\u0142opotem by\u0142a kruszyzna, kt\u00f3ra na nas lecia\u0142a.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong>P.T.: Jak tamtejszy teren wygl\u0105da\u0142 w ocenie wspinaczy, kt\u00f3rzy dzia\u0142aj\u0105 w g\u00f3rach?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>J.G.:<\/strong> <em>Ja mam \u015bwie\u017co w pami\u0119ci wypraw\u0119 letni\u0105 Drog\u0105 Bask\u00f3w. To by\u0142o p\u00f3\u0142 roku odst\u0119pu. Latem si\u0119 chodzi dos\u0142ownie szerokim \u017clebem z zakusami w prawo w lewo. Takim bardziej stromym \u017clebem, ni\u017c \u017cleb pod Mnichem. A zim\u0105 p\u00f3\u0142ki skalne by\u0142y ca\u0142kowicie ods\u0142oni\u0119te. Kamienie spada\u0142y samoczynnie. Wiatr je z g\u00f3ry str\u0105ca\u0142. Do tego powy\u017cej wisia\u0142a olbrzymia bariera \u015bnie\u017cna i od\u0142amki lawin te\u017c do nas dolatywa\u0142y. <\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>Owszem na pocz\u0105tku, kiedy jeszcze si\u0119 nic z\u0142ego nam nie przytrafi\u0142o, optymizm by\u0142. Bardzo szybko osi\u0105gn\u0119li\u015bmy ob\u00f3z drugi na wysoko\u015bci 6300 m n.p.m.. i ch\u0142opcy p\u00f3\u017aniej poszli te\u017c troch\u0119 wy\u017cej \u2013 mo\u017ce na wysoko\u015b\u0107 6400 m n.p.m. Tutaj na 6500 m n.p.m. ko\u0144cz\u0105 si\u0119 trudno\u015bci, bo wchodzi si\u0119 w pewnym momencie w teren lodowo-\u015bnie\u017cny, lodowo-firnowy i tak praktycznie ju\u017c jest do wierzcho\u0142ka. Mo\u017cna wi\u0119c powiedzie\u0107, \u017ce zagro\u017cenia lawinami ju\u017c by tam nas nie dotyczy\u0142o. Natomiast wydarzy\u0142o si\u0119 par\u0119 nieprzyjemnych sytuacji. Pierwszym ostrze\u017ceniem by\u0142o to, gdy nasz szerpa wysoko\u015bciowy dosta\u0142 kamieniem w kask.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong>K.W.:<\/strong> <em>Przyszed\u0142 do nas &#8211; pokazuje p\u00f3\u0142 kasku i m\u00f3wi, \u017ce drugiej po\u0142owy nie ma. My\u015bleli\u015bmy, \u017ce to taki jeden przypadek. Potem si\u0119 okaza\u0142o, \u017ce ka\u017cdy dosta\u0142 gdzie\u015b kamieniem. Jeden w nog\u0119, drugi w plecy, trzeci gdzie\u015b tam\u2026 Tylko w\u0142a\u015bciwie Snopek i ja nie dostali\u015bmy, bo byli\u015bmy w bazie. Potem by\u0142o coraz gorzej.<\/em><\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_19439\" style=\"width: 1010px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><img decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-19439\" class=\"K2 dla Polak\u00f3w wp-image-19439 size-full\" title=\"zimowa narodowa wyprawa na K2\" src=\"http:\/\/8a.pl\/8academy\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/04\/06-kopia.jpg\" alt=\"kierownik zimowej wyprawy na K2\" width=\"1000\" height=\"650\" srcset=\"https:\/\/8a.pl\/8academy\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/04\/06-kopia.jpg 1000w, https:\/\/8a.pl\/8academy\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/04\/06-kopia-300x195.jpg 300w, https:\/\/8a.pl\/8academy\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/04\/06-kopia-768x499.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1000px) 100vw, 1000px\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-19439\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Krzysztof Wielicki &#8211; kierownik wyprawy i Janusz Go\u0142\u0105b &#8211; kierownik sportowy wyprawy (fot. Piotr Deska)<\/p><\/div>\n<p><strong>P.T.: Te wypadki, kt\u00f3re mia\u0142y miejsce na Drodze Bask\u00f3w, nast\u0105pi\u0142y ju\u017c po punkcie zwrotnym, dla waszej wyprawy. Niedaleko na Nanga Parbat mia\u0142y miejsce tragiczne wydarzenia. Jak to wygl\u0105da\u0142o z waszego punktu widzenia, gdy dosz\u0142y do was informacje, \u017ce dzieje si\u0119 co\u015b z\u0142ego z Tomkiem?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>K.W.:<\/strong> <em>Dzi\u0119ki internetowi wiedzieli\u015bmy, \u017ce co\u015b si\u0119 dzieje. Pami\u0119tam by\u0142y zapowiedzi, \u017ce Tomek z Elisabeth b\u0119d\u0105 atakowali szczyt 25 stycznia. Patrz\u0105c na wcze\u015bniejsze doniesienia o aklimatyzacji do wysoko\u015bci nieca\u0142ych 6 tys. byli\u015bmy pe\u0142ni obaw. Mieli\u015bmy nadziej\u0119, \u017ce oni zawr\u00f3c\u0105. Ale potem by\u0142a cisza, a nast\u0119pnie od strony francuskiej otrzymali\u015bmy informacj\u0119, \u017ce podobno byli na szczycie i biwakuj\u0105 gdzie\u015b na 7 400 m n.p.m. oraz \u017ce Tomek dosta\u0142 \u015blepoty i nie mo\u017ce i\u015b\u0107. \u017be Elizabeth b\u0119dzie prawdopodobnie schodzi\u0107. Byli\u015bmy jedynymi, kt\u00f3rzy mogliby pom\u00f3c tej dw\u00f3jce i uruchomili\u015bmy ca\u0142\u0105 procedur\u0119. Musz\u0119 powiedzie\u0107, \u017ce nasza ambasada si\u0119 bardzo dobrze spisa\u0142a, poniewa\u017c w ci\u0105gu jednego dnia uzyskali zgod\u0119 z MSZ na uruchomienie \u015brodk\u00f3w, mimo \u017ce Tomek i Elisabeth nie mieli w\u0142a\u015bciwie ubezpieczenia. <\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>Oczywi\u015bcie by\u0142 pewien problem z wyborem sk\u0142adu, ale jak zapyta\u0142em si\u0119 kto leci, to wszyscy si\u0119 zg\u0142osili. Musieli\u015bmy wyznaczy\u0107 czw\u00f3rk\u0119 ludzi. P\u00f3\u017aniej by\u0142a walka o to, \u017ceby helikopter w og\u00f3le po nas przylecia\u0142, bo chmury by\u0142y dosy\u0107 nisko, a ci piloci w zasadzie przy zachmurzeniu nie lataj\u0105. Ale w ko\u0144cu uda\u0142o si\u0119 ich przycisn\u0105\u0107 i jeszcze tego samego dnia nasi ludzie wyl\u0105dowali pod Nanga Parbat. To by\u0142o du\u017c\u0105 zas\u0142ug\u0105 pilot\u00f3w, ale nie oby\u0142o si\u0119 bez pomocy naszego attach\u00e9. Chodzi\u0142o o to, \u017ce oni chcieli l\u0105dowa\u0107 w bazie na 4 000 m n.p.m., a gdyby tak si\u0119 sta\u0142o, akcja op\u00f3\u017ani\u0142aby si\u0119 o jeden dzie\u0144.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>Ostatecznie wyl\u0105dowali bardzo wysoko, bo pod \u015bcian\u0105 na 4 950 m n.p.m. I to umo\u017cliwi\u0142o ch\u0142opakom wyruszenie tej samej nocy w kierunku Elisabet Revol. Mieli\u015bmy z ni\u0105 kontakt okr\u0119\u017cny drog\u0105 przez Polsk\u0119 i Francj\u0119. Wa\u017cne by\u0142o, by nie schodzi\u0142a czasem drog\u0105 Messnera, kt\u00f3r\u0105 si\u0119 wspina\u0142a \u2013 tylko bezpo\u015brednio sz\u0142a w d\u00f3\u0142. To dawa\u0142o szans\u0119, \u017ce zesp\u00f3\u0142 szybko si\u0119 z ni\u0105 spotka.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>Chc\u0119 zaznaczy\u0107, \u017ce to nie by\u0142a akcja ratunkowa po Revol, ale po Tomka. Wiedzieli\u015bmy, \u017ce Elisabeth sama schodzi. Oczywi\u015bcie wiedzieli\u015bmy, \u017ce piloci z armii maj\u0105 zakaz latania powy\u017cej 6 tysi\u0119cy, ale mieli\u015bmy mo\u017ce jaki\u015b cie\u0144 nadziei, \u017ce nas gdzie\u015b tam wy\u017cej zrzuc\u0105. Albo chocia\u017c polec\u0105 troch\u0119 do g\u00f3ry i zobacz\u0105 co si\u0119 tam dzieje. Nasze oczekiwania by\u0142y wi\u0119ksze.\u00a0<\/em><em>Ch\u0142opcy aklimatyzacj\u0119 mieli do 6200 m n.p.m., ale gdy spotkali Revol to najpierw trzeba by\u0142o j\u0105 ratowa\u0107. Je\u015bli poszliby po Tomka, akcja trwa\u0142aby ca\u0142\u0105 noc i nast\u0119pny dzie\u0144\u2026 Wydaje mi si\u0119, \u017ce piloci nie polecieliby wy\u017cej, w zwi\u0105zku z tym nie by\u0142o szans, \u017ceby oni \u015bci\u0105gn\u0119li cz\u0142owieka, kt\u00f3ry nie mo\u017ce ruszy\u0107 si\u0119 z namiotu. Dla mnie to nie by\u0142a szcz\u0119\u015bliwa akcja, bo zgin\u0105\u0142 cz\u0142owiek. A to, czy mogli\u015bmy pom\u00f3c, zale\u017ca\u0142o od wielu element\u00f3w \u2013 nie tylko od nas.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong>J.G.:<\/strong> <em>W ratownictwie \u2013 r\u00f3wnie\u017c tym w g\u00f3rach \u2013 s\u0105 takie procedury, \u017ce ocenia si\u0119 szanse i ratuje si\u0119 t\u0119 osob\u0119, kt\u00f3r\u0105 mo\u017cna uratowa\u0107. W tym wypadku by\u0142a to Elisabeth. Nale\u017cy si\u0119 cieszy\u0107 z tego, \u017ce nasza wyprawa ocali\u0142a przynajmniej jej \u017cycie. <\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong>P.T.: Ale z akcji ratunkowej nie wszyscy wr\u00f3cili do bazy pod K2. Nie dotar\u0142 tam Jarek Botor \u2013 ratownik, kt\u00f3ry odpowiada\u0142 za zabezpieczenie medyczne waszej wyprawy. To by\u0142 chyba k\u0142opot, bo zaraz potem zdarzy\u0142y si\u0119 dwa wypadki. Kto z was chwyci\u0142 za ig\u0142\u0119 i zszy\u0142 Adama Bieleckiego? <\/strong><\/p>\n<p><em><strong>K.W.:<\/strong>\u00a0Nie mog\u0142em patrze\u0107 si\u0119 na to, gdy inni filmowali, jak \u201eSzewc Dratewka\u201d Piotrek Tomala zabiera\u0142 si\u0119 za ig\u0142\u0119 i za nici. Dzi\u0119ki naszemu lekarzowi Robertowi Szymczakowi, kt\u00f3ry go instruowa\u0142 przez WhatsApp`a, pozszywa\u0142 Adamowi czo\u0142o i nos. No, ale wszystko si\u0119 uda\u0142o i Adam wydobrza\u0142 za jakie\u015b 10 dni. Ale tak powa\u017cnie, to wszyscy przeszli\u015bmy jakie\u015b szkolenie medyczne.<\/em><\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_19438\" style=\"width: 1010px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><img decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-19438\" class=\"polska zimowa wyprawa na k2 wp-image-19438 size-full\" title=\"K2 2018\" src=\"http:\/\/8a.pl\/8academy\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/04\/05-kopia.jpg\" alt=\"Janusz Go\u0142\u0105b - kierownik sportowy zimowej wyprawy na K2\" width=\"1000\" height=\"650\" srcset=\"https:\/\/8a.pl\/8academy\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/04\/05-kopia.jpg 1000w, https:\/\/8a.pl\/8academy\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/04\/05-kopia-300x195.jpg 300w, https:\/\/8a.pl\/8academy\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/04\/05-kopia-768x499.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1000px) 100vw, 1000px\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-19438\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Janusz Go\u0142\u0105b (fot. Piotr Deska)<\/p><\/div>\n<p><strong>P.T. No, ale po tych wypadkach zapad\u0142a decyzja o rezygnacji z akcji g\u00f3rskiej na Drodze Bask\u00f3w. Pojawia\u0142y si\u0119 r\u00f3\u017cne pomys\u0142y. Ostateczni zdecydowali\u015bcie si\u0119 na \u017bebro Abruzzich, ale czy zastanawiali\u015bcie si\u0119 te\u017c nad pomys\u0142em Denisa, czyli nad wspinaczk\u0105 now\u0105 drog\u0105 na wschodniej \u015bcianie?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>K.W.:<\/strong> <em>Nie my\u015bleli\u015bmy o tym, poniewa\u017c ju\u017c byli\u015bmy sp\u00f3\u017anieni o trzy tygodnie. Rozpocz\u0119cie nowej \u2013 nieznanej nam drogi \u2013 na pocz\u0105tku lutego by\u0142o zbyt ryzykowne. Wydawa\u0142o nam si\u0119, \u017ce trzeba wr\u00f3ci\u0107 na \u017bebro Abruzzich. Tam w tydzie\u0144 zrobili\u015bmy tyle, co na Drodze Bask\u00f3w przez trzy tygodnie.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong>P.T.: Na \u017bebrze Abruzzich poruszali\u015bcie si\u0119 szybko. Czy\u017cby tam na pocz\u0105tku by\u0142 nieco \u0142atwiejszy teren?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>J.G.:<\/strong> <em>Jest mniej stromy, ni\u017c na Drodze Bask\u00f3w. Je\u015bli na Drodze Bask\u00f3w spada kamie\u0144, to on ma szans\u0119 si\u0119 rozp\u0119dzi\u0107. \u017bebro Abruzzich bardziej \u201ele\u017cy\u201d i spadaj\u0105cy kamie\u0144 wbija si\u0119 w zasp\u0119 \u015bniegu lub za\u0142om skalny. Nie ma szans na to, \u017ce uzyska tak\u0105 pr\u0119dko\u015b\u0107, kt\u00f3ra stanowi\u0107 b\u0119dzie wi\u0119ksze zagro\u017cenie. Jest to droga d\u0142u\u017csza, ale technicznie mniej uci\u0105\u017cliwa (aczkolwiek te\u017c ma partie \u201eparawspinaczkowe\u201d, takie jak Komin House&#8217;a, czy Czarna Piramida). W du\u017cej ilo\u015bci spotykali\u015bmy tu stare liny por\u0119czowe i stare stanowiska asekuracyjne, co przyspiesza tempo wspinaczki. Bardzo wa\u017cne s\u0105 te\u017c miejsca, w kt\u00f3rych biwakujemy. Na Drodze Bask\u00f3w s\u0105 one bardzo ma\u0142e i niewygodne \u2013 ledwo udawa\u0142o nam si\u0119 stawia\u0107 jeden namiot dwuosobowy w obozie pierwszym i obozie drugim. Na Drodze Abruzzich miejsca biwakowe s\u0105 znacznie bardziej komfortowe.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong>P.T.: Walczyli\u015bcie z aklimatyzacj\u0105 przez ca\u0142y czas i tak naprawd\u0119 pod koniec wyprawy ostatecznie jej zabrak\u0142o. <\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>K.W.:<\/strong> <em>Taktyka by\u0142a uzale\u017cniona od okien pogodowych. One by\u0142y. W sumie nawet 5, czy 6 na ca\u0142ej wyprawie. Ale by\u0142y dosy\u0107 charakterystyczne, bo kr\u00f3tkie. Problemem by\u0142o dotrze\u0107 wysoko zaaklimatyzowa\u0107 si\u0119 i zej\u015b\u0107. Zespo\u0142y, kt\u00f3re sz\u0142y do g\u00f3ry si\u0119 aklimatyzowa\u0107, zawraca\u0142y z powodu silnego wiatru. By\u0142y te\u017c takie szkwa\u0142y. Wiatr mia\u0142 wia\u0107 z pr\u0119dko\u015bci 40km\/h, a okazywa\u0142o si\u0119, \u017ce wieje 80 km\/h. W tym roku nieustabilizowana by\u0142a sytuacja w Arktyce, to powodowa\u0142o te\u017c anomalia pogodowe na K2. Nie mo\u017cna by\u0142o niczego przewidzie\u0107. By\u0142a walka o ob\u00f3z drugi, kt\u00f3ry si\u0119 uda\u0142o za\u0142o\u017cy\u0107 pod kominem. Potem Adam z Denisem trafili w okno, kt\u00f3re pozwoli\u0142o dotrze\u0107 na 7 200 m n.p.m. i nawet sp\u0119dzi\u0107 tam jedn\u0105 noc, ale jak wracali, ju\u017c mieli huragan. <\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong>J.G.:<\/strong> <em>W takich nienajlepszych warunkach pogodowych opor\u0119czowali\u015bmy doln\u0105 cz\u0119\u015b\u0107 \u017bebra. Pojawi\u0142 si\u0119 jednak problem, bo cz\u0119\u015b\u0107 lin zostawili\u015bmy na Drodze Cesena i zacz\u0119\u0142o nam ich brakowa\u0107. By\u0142y dyskusje, czy korzysta\u0107 ze starych, wisz\u0105cych lin, kt\u00f3re zosta\u0142y za\u0142o\u017cone latem, bo zawsze to niesie ze sob\u0105 pewne ryzyko. No, ale ostatecznie koledzy dotarli na te 7200 m n.p.m.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong>P.T.: A czy otrzymywane prognozy pomaga\u0142y w ustalaniu terminarza?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>K.W.:<\/strong> <em>Raczej nie pomaga\u0142y, ale denerwowa\u0142y. Mieli\u015bmy profesjonalne prognozy, ale co z tego, jak by\u0142y one z\u0142e. Ca\u0142y czas toczy\u0142a si\u0119 walka o to, \u017ceby jeszcze jaki\u015b zesp\u00f3\u0142 si\u0119 zaaklimatyzowa\u0142. I kiedy wiedzieli\u015bmy ju\u017c, \u017ce nie ma na to szans przed atakiem szczytowym, a zapowiada\u0142a si\u0119 ca\u0142kiem dobra pogoda na 4-6\/7 marca, wymy\u015blili\u015bmy, \u017ce p\u00f3jd\u0105 Denis z Adamem. I b\u0119dzie to te\u017c okazja, \u017ceby przygotowa\u0107 zesp\u00f3\u0142 lub dwa zespo\u0142y wspieraj\u0105ce. No ale 24 lutego niespodziank\u0119 sprawi\u0142 nam pewien pan\u2026<\/em><\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_19437\" style=\"width: 1010px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-19437\" class=\"polscy himalai\u015bci pod K2 wp-image-19437 size-full\" title=\"wyprawy na K2\" src=\"http:\/\/8a.pl\/8academy\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/04\/04-kopia.jpg\" alt=\"Kierownik Krzysztof Wielicki\" width=\"1000\" height=\"650\" srcset=\"https:\/\/8a.pl\/8academy\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/04\/04-kopia.jpg 1000w, https:\/\/8a.pl\/8academy\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/04\/04-kopia-300x195.jpg 300w, https:\/\/8a.pl\/8academy\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/04\/04-kopia-768x499.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1000px) 100vw, 1000px\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-19437\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Krzysztof Wielicki (fot. Piotr Deska)<\/p><\/div>\n<p><strong>P.T.: No w\u0142a\u015bnie &#8211; ta sytuacja trafi\u0142a na czo\u0142\u00f3wki wszystkich medi\u00f3w w Polsce. Pojawi\u0142 si\u0119 pewien konflikt na wyprawie&#8230;<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>K.W.:<\/strong> <em>To nie by\u0142 \u017caden konflikt. 24 lutego wieczorem Denis \u201eobudzi\u0142 si\u0119\u201d nagle i pyta si\u0119 Adama: to co, idziemy na szczyt? Adam odpowiedzia\u0142, \u017ce jeszcze nie wypocz\u0105\u0142, a do tego za 2 \u2013 3 dni ma by\u0107 mocny wiatr, wi\u0119c nie ma sensu teraz wychodzi\u0107. Wydawa\u0142o mi si\u0119, \u017ce Denis to zrozumia\u0142. Nast\u0119pnego dnia jeden \u201esp\u00f3\u017anialski\u201d doni\u00f3s\u0142 mi, \u017ce w drodze na \u015bniadanie widzia\u0142 osob\u0119 oddalaj\u0105c\u0105 si\u0119 od bazy. Patrz\u0119, a to Denis. Opu\u015bci\u0142 mes\u0119, spakowa\u0142 si\u0119 i poszed\u0142. Ja si\u0119 \u2013 oczywi\u015bcie \u2013 strasznie zdenerwowa\u0142em, bo poszed\u0142 sam, a to r\u00f3\u017cnie mo\u017ce by\u0107. Poprosi\u0142em ch\u0142opak\u00f3w w obozie pierwszym, \u017ceby go zatrzymali. Denis oznajmi\u0142, \u017ce nie b\u0119dzie ze mn\u0105 rozmawia\u0142. My\u015bl\u0119 sobie: jak nie chce, to nie. M\u00f3wi\u0119 do ch\u0142opak\u00f3w, \u017ceby chocia\u017c nam\u00f3wili go na zabranie ze sob\u0105 telefonu. On na to, \u017ce nie jest mu potrzebny, bo sam sobie poradzi. W\u0142a\u015bnie to mi si\u0119 bardzo nie spodoba\u0142o, \u017ce nie chcia\u0142 porozmawia\u0107 i uzna\u0142, \u017ce jego bezpiecze\u0144stwo zale\u017cy wy\u0142\u0105cznie od niego. A tak nie jest. Niech dostanie kamieniem, albo upadnie i z\u0142amie nog\u0119. My, wiedz\u0105c o tym, wys\u0142ali\u015bmy za nim zespo\u0142y, kt\u00f3re mia\u0142y si\u0119 aklimatyzowa\u0107 i ewentualnie doj\u015b\u0107 do \u201etr\u00f3jki\u201d i zobaczy\u0107 co si\u0119 z nim dzieje. My\u015bl\u0119, \u017ce tak nie mo\u017cna robi\u0107, bo si\u0119 nara\u017ca innych na niebezpiecze\u0144stwo. Wed\u0142ug nas z\u0142ama\u0142 pewne zasady, ale trudno \u2013 poszed\u0142. Zna\u0142em prognozy, wi\u0119c wiedzia\u0142em, \u017ce musi wr\u00f3ci\u0107 po dw\u00f3ch dniach i tak si\u0119 sta\u0142o.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>Do teorii Denisa, \u017ce zima ko\u0144czy si\u0119 28 lutego nie przyk\u0142adali\u015bmy wagi, gdy\u017c nie by\u0142o o niej mowy podczas wyprawy. Dopiero 24 sobie przypomnia\u0142, \u017ce zosta\u0142y mu 4 dni. Trzeba powiedzie\u0107, \u017ce Denis by\u0142 bardzo zdeterminowany \u017ceby wej\u015b\u0107 na K2 i \u015bwietnie si\u0119 tutaj wspina\u0142. Nie mo\u017cna mu w tej kwestii niczego zarzuci\u0107. 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Mieli\u015bmy kumulacyjny wykres, kt\u00f3ry m\u00f3wi\u0142 o dw\u00f3ch metrach na wysoko\u015bci 7 600 m n.p.m. By\u0107 mo\u017ce a\u017c takich ilo\u015bci \u015bniegu tam nie by\u0142o, bo te\u017c wiatr robi swoje, ale tyle spada\u0142o. Do tego te wszystkie s\u0142upki od ko\u0144ca lutego ca\u0142y czas mia\u0142y rosn\u0105\u0107. Doszed\u0142 wi\u0119c nast\u0119pny problem \u2013 zagro\u017cenie lawinowe. To nas troch\u0119 przystopowa\u0142o.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong>J.G.:<\/strong> <em>Gdzie\u015b tam te okno si\u0119 pokazywa\u0142o, ale po takich opadach trzeba te\u017c troszeczk\u0119 czasu da\u0107 g\u00f3rom, \u017ceby si\u0119 otrz\u0105sn\u0119\u0142y z tego \u015bniegu. Musieliby\u015bmy po\u015bwi\u0119ci\u0107 jedno okno, \u017ceby sytuacja si\u0119 ustabilizowa\u0142a. Obserwowali\u015bmy co si\u0119 dzieje i by\u0142y symptomy tzw. desek. Teren nad Czarn\u0105 Piramid\u0105, by\u0142 wtedy bardzo zagro\u017cony lawinami. Ju\u017c tego czasu nie mieli\u015bmy.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong>P.T.: Na pierwszej konferencji po waszym powrocie pojawi\u0142y si\u0119 g\u0142osy, \u017ceby spr\u00f3bowa\u0107 wej\u015b\u0107 na K2 jeszcze w tym roku. Czy jest na to szansa i czy w og\u00f3le tak szybki powr\u00f3t mia\u0142by sens? Wasz sprz\u0119t tam podobno jest.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>K.W.:<\/strong> <em>No comment.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong>J.G.:<\/strong> <em>Powiem tak: szansa wej\u015bcia na wierzcho\u0142ek na pewno jest. Gdyby jej nie by\u0142o, to by\u015bmy tam nie jechali. Ja tylko przypomn\u0119, \u017ce pierwsze zimowe wej\u015bcie na Nanga Parbat mia\u0142o miejsce chyba za 33 podej\u015bciem. Na K2 by\u0142y jak dot\u0105d cztery zimowe pr\u00f3by i wydaje mi si\u0119, \u017ce s\u0105 to pr\u00f3by wa\u017cne. Teraz trzeba wyci\u0105gn\u0105\u0107 wnioski. Z tego co wiem, to w zespole paru ch\u0142opak\u00f3w bardzo chce tam wej\u015b\u0107.<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Pomimo, i\u017c szczytu nie uda\u0142o si\u0119 zdoby\u0107, wr\u00f3cili bogatsi o nowe do\u015bwiadczenia i szereg ciekawych przemy\u015ble\u0144. Dla tych, kt\u00f3rzy nie mieli okazji by\u0107 na spotkaniu z kierownikami Zimowej Narodowej Wyprawy na K2: Krzysztofem Wielickim i Januszem Go\u0142\u0105bem, przygotowali\u015bmy skr\u00f3t przeprowadzonej w\u00f3wczas rozmowy.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":7,"featured_media":19439,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"_uf_show_specific_survey":0,"_uf_disable_surveys":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[26071],"tags":[26086,26104,26079],"class_list":["post-19429","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-alpinizm","tag-alpinizm","tag-caloroczne","tag-wywiad"],"acf":[],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO Premium plugin v23.4 (Yoast SEO v25.5) - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>Krzysztof Wielicki i Janusz Go\u0142\u0105b o zimowych zmaganiach z K2 |8academy<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"Krzysztof Wielicki i Janusz Go\u0142\u0105b odpowiadaj\u0105 na pytania Piotra Turkota z portalu wspinanie.pl. 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